Posts by Black Sheep

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I need some assistance!

by Kool Jo in

i just found out that a co-worker of mine is a ex-jw....she's being pressured to go back to the khall...she says everytime she goes to visit her family, they're telling her how jehovah still loves her...blah blah blah...thankfully she has her own apartment!.

i do see how her upbringing in the cult has affected her...she's soft and overly kind, but she's a real sweetheart...the down side: people take advantage of her.. should i tell her that i too am a jw and understands what she's going through with her family or should i just tell her that "spirituality is a personal thing and don't feel guilted into doing something you don't want" ect....the thing is, she talks alot and if i tell her that i'm suppose to be a jw, then the entire workplace will know.... what should i do?

my only aim is to have her not feel guilted in going back...she said her family has been trying to get her back in, but she's resisting it...the other issue, her son stays with her jw sister (she didn't disclose why)...and my co-worker tells me that her son is becoming a "jw convert".. please i need some advice!.

Black Sheep

Don't tell her anything. Especially don't unload a whole bucket load of WT crap on her. Technique is much more important than the info you want to unleash.

She has to do the thinking and the talking, not you. The more you try and do it for her, the greater the chance that she will block you out and run back to the KH.

Ask her a simple question that you already know the WT hasn't given her a sensible answer for, then shut up except to keep her on topic and honest. Ask it in such a way that she will really want to answer it.

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What do witnesses say to you that it is a sign of great tribulation coming?

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

when i was little, some older brother told me there will be a very important annoucement from bethel.

he said it might be start of the great tribulation.

i got so worried.

Black Sheep

Most of them are too embarrassed to bring up their worn out 'signs' in my presence

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CD or copied WT article when reverse-witnessing?

by NeverKnew in

so, a couple of weekends ago, i, a non-jw, went to my non-jw cousin's house and lo and behold, two witnesses showed up.

amongst the many random topics, the mediatorship of jesus came up.

i stated, "...now, in your faith, jesus is not your mediator, correct?

Black Sheep

Get them to take an entrenched position, then challenge them to provide you with the literature to back up that position. Try to do it in such a way that they feel obligated to do it. They think they have a life saving message and that they can save you from their killer god with that message if they put in the effort to convert you, so use that to get promises out of them and to get them to do the research.

If they don't come back, that doesn't mean you didn't make your point. There might be a very good reason why they didn't front up.

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2014 Theocratic Ministry School Workbook!

by Atlantis in

2014 theocratic ministry school workbook!

(158 pages).

.send space (click the link by the blue arrow.

Black Sheep

Ta

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CHRISTIANS: Are we meant to identify the last days?

by Zoos in

i've been reading articles from ronald e. frye's, the christian respondent.

he puts forward this understanding of mark 13, mathew 24 and luke 21:.

(1) the destruction of jerusalem is set forth in graphic detail.

Black Sheep

Sometimes the reason it is difficult to make sense of something is simply because it doesn't make sense. Ask yourself, if your mum wore a burka would you be asking this question, or is it only important to you because of an accident of birth?

The questions that my parents insisted needed answering needed to be analysed before attempting any answers. They never did that. They wasted decades of their lives chasing ever changing answers to questions that never needed to be asked, and provided no benefits to themselves, their family, and their converts, other than providing them with a dysfunctional social club of misfits.

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Did a householder at the door ever cause you doubts

by perfect1 in

recently on a saturday morning there was a knock on my door.

two ladies asked me if i was familiar with the jws.

i said: yes unfortunatley.

Black Sheep

A Lutheran sat my father down and trashed him on the immortal soul. My father couldn't care less, but I got the message.

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This website finally helped me understand the claim of 100% failure rate

by ILoveTTATT in

jw
friends

up to about 5 minutes ago... i still had the notion that maybe jw's predicted something and got it right... that the league of nations was going to rise and become the united nations.

i think that jw prophecies/predictions are like a shotgun: shoots many projectiles, one of them has got to hit.

you cannot predict 5 different things and then, when one of them gets partly fulfilled, drop the other 4.5 things, change the 1/2 thing you predicted that was right and make it seem like that was the only thing you predicted, and make the entire one point fit after the fact.. reading watchtower literature throughout the years (1879 till now), and then coming here and getting awesome explanations from people like leolaia and other researchers, i finally understand the claim that most apostate websites make: the wt has a 100% prediction failure rate.. they were lucky that something big happened in 1914... but now i am much wiser and i know that everything they predicted for 1914 did not turn out as they predicted... 1914 has been a date with many different hats... from the start of armageddon, to the beginning of the last days... etc.... thank you very much jwn for completely opening my mind.

Black Sheep

I still had the notion that MAYBE JW's predicted SOMETHING and got it right... that the League of Nations was going to rise and become the United Nations.

Really?????

did the watchtower predict that League of Nations United Nations?

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"New Light" Annual Meeting Oct 2013" Olive Branch Extended To Apostates and Unfaithful JWs.

by AuntConnie in

it's absurd to think jehovah's slave should take heed or listen to advice from the ever growing mob leaving the organization.

still, it's your problem you can't keep pace with our present truth as we continue to evolve.

why should we listen to the the vast army of apostates and evil slaves, they don't want a gente, more humble org, they need to fight fire with fire!

Black Sheep

I'm really looking forward to watching Jesus killing my neighbor's babies from the safety of Jehovah's chariot. I'll repent my evil ways tomorrow, or maybe the next day... or maybe after the party on the weekend... or after the fishing trip with the local heathens...

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Does it show a deplorable lack of faith to have a bucket list?

by compound complex in

jw
friends

as a baby boomer making the best of every day, i have a casual list of things i want to do before i, well .

we all know about the promises made, and, gee whiz, i want to be a good and faithful boy.

but i'm beginning to wonder if i should buy a few more baskets to put my eggs in.

Black Sheep

I'm running out of things on my bucket list and have to keep inventing new ones.

Jumping off a bridge tied to a rubber band will never make my list

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Similar Religions to Jehovah's Witnesses

by God_Delusion in

hi guys,.

i am sort of having a breakthrough with my mother-in-law.

she's not really going to the meetings any longer but still believes the jehovah's witnesses are the "true religion".. in our last conversation, she said the following:.

Black Sheep

Instead of trying to prove to her that JW isn't the one true religion, she should be trying to prove to you that it is by answering the questions that she currently uses trickery to avoid.

Every time she uses a diversion, let her know that you know she tried to fool you and, if possible, use a question to get her to compare her tactic to something you have heard her trash 'false relgion' for.